Comments on: The humble potato http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/2008/08/17/the-humble-potato/ Exploring the genetic links between Asperger's syndrome, fibromyalgia, hypoglycaemia, obesity, back pain, asthma and 'allergies', and how to improve them with a scientific diet you have never heard of. Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:10:54 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: methylethyl http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/2008/08/17/the-humble-potato/#comment-638 methylethyl Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:13:22 +0000 http://emmadavies.wordpress.com/?p=488#comment-638 This is good to know! I chopped potatoes out of my diet completely after the last disaster: I ate a delicious russet potato fried in beef tallow, and had to go take a 3-hour nap only twenty minutes later from overwhelming drowsiness. I assumed it was the starch that got me, but I might try potatoes again-- other varieties, no skins-- and see what happens. I thought at first from your post that "jacket potatoes" were a breed of potato. I had to go look it up, as I had never heard the term-- I was quite surprised to find it was just a baked potato : ) Thanks for this post! This is good to know! I chopped potatoes out of my diet completely after the last disaster: I ate a delicious russet potato fried in beef tallow, and had to go take a 3-hour nap only twenty minutes later from overwhelming drowsiness. I assumed it was the starch that got me, but I might try potatoes again– other varieties, no skins– and see what happens.

I thought at first from your post that “jacket potatoes” were a breed of potato. I had to go look it up, as I had never heard the term– I was quite surprised to find it was just a baked potato : )

Thanks for this post!

]]> By: Alien Robot Girl http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/2008/08/17/the-humble-potato/#comment-576 Alien Robot Girl Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:41:36 +0000 http://emmadavies.wordpress.com/?p=488#comment-576 Sorry about the seizure Elena. Any luck with any of the glutamate-lowering supplements yet? Dermatitis in the ear canals might be otis externa/pseudomonas. That's what I have, chronically, since the age of 19. Sorry about the seizure Elena. Any luck with any of the glutamate-lowering supplements yet? Dermatitis in the ear canals might be otis externa/pseudomonas. That’s what I have, chronically, since the age of 19.

]]> By: piratehyde http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/2008/08/17/the-humble-potato/#comment-569 piratehyde Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:26:48 +0000 http://emmadavies.wordpress.com/?p=488#comment-569 Ooh that sounds great. I'm not sure what to focus on these days. The past few months I've been trialing out just about everything on the failsafe list - my amine tolerance has gone up a bit (although now my dermatitis has flared up in my ear canals!) but everything else is just as bad with the methylation supps. I suspect I had a simple partial seizure (motor) last night and i've probably been overdoing the b12 to get over the reactions. I've just had a glass of milk this morning and my head feels dreadful again. Sigh. Ooh that sounds great. I’m not sure what to focus on these days. The past few months I’ve been trialing out just about everything on the failsafe list – my amine tolerance has gone up a bit (although now my dermatitis has flared up in my ear canals!) but everything else is just as bad with the methylation supps. I suspect I had a simple partial seizure (motor) last night and i’ve probably been overdoing the b12 to get over the reactions. I’ve just had a glass of milk this morning and my head feels dreadful again. Sigh.

]]> By: Alien Robot Girl http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/2008/08/17/the-humble-potato/#comment-567 Alien Robot Girl Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:32:32 +0000 http://emmadavies.wordpress.com/?p=488#comment-567 Hi Elena, You are totally right. Solanine has sedative properties and is known for causing headaches. As I've just mentioned to Peter, it seems to operate through similar mechanisms to glutamate. I also feel 'glutamated' when I eat solanine. You seem to be particularly vulnerable to glutamatey symptoms - stand by for a theory on this relating to bipolar disorder - one that encompasses both glutamate and amine intolerance. Hi Elena,

You are totally right. Solanine has sedative properties and is known for causing headaches. As I’ve just mentioned to Peter, it seems to operate through similar mechanisms to glutamate. I also feel ‘glutamated’ when I eat solanine. You seem to be particularly vulnerable to glutamatey symptoms – stand by for a theory on this relating to bipolar disorder – one that encompasses both glutamate and amine intolerance.

]]> By: Alien Robot Girl http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/2008/08/17/the-humble-potato/#comment-566 Alien Robot Girl Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:25:39 +0000 http://emmadavies.wordpress.com/?p=488#comment-566 Hi Peter. Glutamate, tyramine and caffeine are also common triggers of heart palpitations, so it might be worth her taking note of what she has eaten in the couple of hours before her heart palps come on. I'm not sure if there is a connection between MAO and solanine. The theory is that solanine opens potassium channels into the mitochondria and this in turn increases calcium in the mitochondria which leads to cell damage. Glutamate operates in the same way, increasing calcium levels until toxic. I suspect if people are particularly vulnerable to both glutamate and solanine in particular, it might operate through some sort of ion channel polymorphism. Hi Peter.

Glutamate, tyramine and caffeine are also common triggers of heart palpitations, so it might be worth her taking note of what she has eaten in the couple of hours before her heart palps come on.

I’m not sure if there is a connection between MAO and solanine.

The theory is that solanine opens potassium channels into the mitochondria and this in turn increases calcium in the mitochondria which leads to cell damage. Glutamate operates in the same way, increasing calcium levels until toxic. I suspect if people are particularly vulnerable to both glutamate and solanine in particular, it might operate through some sort of ion channel polymorphism.

]]> By: Alien Robot Girl http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/2008/08/17/the-humble-potato/#comment-564 Alien Robot Girl Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:53:29 +0000 http://emmadavies.wordpress.com/?p=488#comment-564 I'm not quite sure what the problem is vishmehr, since potatoes are mostly water, this is a perfectly acceptable quantity of potatoes to eat, providing a similar amount of energy, and a higher quality of protein - and the protein does not cause detrimental effects like coeliac disease or arthritis. I’m not quite sure what the problem is vishmehr, since potatoes are mostly water, this is a perfectly acceptable quantity of potatoes to eat, providing a similar amount of energy, and a higher quality of protein – and the protein does not cause detrimental effects like coeliac disease or arthritis.

]]> By: vishmehr24 http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/2008/08/17/the-humble-potato/#comment-563 vishmehr24 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:23:18 +0000 http://emmadavies.wordpress.com/?p=488#comment-563 Replace grains with Potato? A poor laborer may consume 300 g wheat a day supplying 30-36 g protein. he would need to eat roughly 2 kg potato to get the same protein (assuming 1.7 g protein per 100 g boiled potato). Replace grains with Potato?
A poor laborer may consume 300 g wheat a day supplying 30-36 g protein.
he would need to eat roughly 2 kg potato to get the same protein (assuming 1.7 g protein per 100 g boiled potato).

]]> By: peterdee http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/2008/08/17/the-humble-potato/#comment-558 peterdee Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:11:56 +0000 http://emmadavies.wordpress.com/?p=488#comment-558 Hmmmm, Solanine = hiccups Solanine = palpitations Will be much more careful about choosing spuds now, this rings very true for my better half, who does both of these occasionally and, with our total carb intake being down at JKs level, the spuds are often sprouting... We'll skip the chips tonight and get some fresh spuds! Very useful, Thanks Peter BTW any tie together between MAO subtypes and solanine sensitivity? Hmmmm,

Solanine = hiccups
Solanine = palpitations

Will be much more careful about choosing spuds now, this rings very true for my better half, who does both of these occasionally and, with our total carb intake being down at JKs level, the spuds are often sprouting… We’ll skip the chips tonight and get some fresh spuds!

Very useful,

Thanks

Peter

BTW any tie together between MAO subtypes and solanine sensitivity?

]]> By: piratehyde http://blog.plantpoisonsandrottenstuff.info/2008/08/17/the-humble-potato/#comment-555 piratehyde Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:18:18 +0000 http://emmadavies.wordpress.com/?p=488#comment-555 Hi, I still can't find some potatoes I can eat without symptoms. My main symptom is they make me feel horrendously groggy and tired. In the past they would send me straight to sleep amd give me headaches. It might be the solanine. I've tried potatoes from my grocers, but potatoes straight from the sacks are particularly hard to find! I'm going for maris pipers. I'm slightly wondering if its glutamates again though. I don't particularly tolerate Woodland's Sheep yogurt as much as I hoped because I get too much glutamatey symptoms off it, its certainly the least reactive yogurt on the market though. Elena Hi,

I still can’t find some potatoes I can eat without symptoms. My main symptom is they make me feel horrendously groggy and tired. In the past they would send me straight to sleep amd give me headaches. It might be the solanine. I’ve tried potatoes from my grocers, but potatoes straight from the sacks are particularly hard to find! I’m going for maris pipers.

I’m slightly wondering if its glutamates again though. I don’t particularly tolerate Woodland’s Sheep yogurt as much as I hoped because I get too much glutamatey symptoms off it, its certainly the least reactive yogurt on the market though.

Elena

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